Comments on: More train talk, sort of http://www.alexdorival.com/rr/2005/12/10/more-train-talk-sort-of/ The site for social rights and wrongs Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:51:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: steph http://www.alexdorival.com/rr/2005/12/10/more-train-talk-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-92 steph Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:19:16 +0000 /?p=37#comment-92 Frankly, Leshka, that last comment especially shows that you know NOTHING about collective bargaining. BTW, merit raises are total bull, as 1) there is no teeth in any such language, and 2) they create hostility between working people. And just how do you know that the MTA has any monetary problems at all? Have you seen any of the sets of books they keep? To better the conditions of all working people in this city, we must must must learn to respect each other as working people and build solidarity with each other. When we raise our consciousness as a class, we will only gain strength. "A rising tide lifts all boats." Frankly, Leshka, that last comment especially shows that you know NOTHING about collective bargaining.

BTW, merit raises are total bull, as 1) there is no teeth in any such language, and 2) they create hostility between working people.

And just how do you know that the MTA has any monetary problems at all? Have you seen any of the sets of books they keep?

To better the conditions of all working people in this city, we must must must learn to respect each other as working people and build solidarity with each other. When we raise our consciousness as a class, we will only gain strength. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

]]> By: Leshka http://www.alexdorival.com/rr/2005/12/10/more-train-talk-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Leshka Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:02:09 +0000 /?p=37#comment-64 Collective bargaining would be something dealt with from the outset, before you have started a contract. Once a contract has been signed, I believe every worker should expect some sort of increase to cover extra expenses for the coming year. If the body of workers as a whole decides they want their salaries increased, that would mean a new contract must be signed. Although it should be a reward, think of a merit-based raise as an extra incentive to do a good job because, let's face it, most of us work just to pay the rent, and there are a lot of people who know they're getting paid even if they do a mediocre job, so they don't "live up to their potential." Collective bargaining would be something dealt with from the outset, before you have started a contract. Once a contract has been signed, I believe every worker should expect some sort of increase to cover extra expenses for the coming year. If the body of workers as a whole decides they want their salaries increased, that would mean a new contract must be signed.

Although it should be a reward, think of a merit-based raise as an extra incentive to do a good job because, let’s face it, most of us work just to pay the rent, and there are a lot of people who know they’re getting paid even if they do a mediocre job, so they don’t “live up to their potential.”

]]> By: dank http://www.alexdorival.com/rr/2005/12/10/more-train-talk-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-63 dank Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:36:03 +0000 /?p=37#comment-63 <i>I don’t like the word ‘raise’ being your basic increase of income. Every worker needs a basic cost of living increase just to be able to deal with their rent, which is ridiculously high to begin with around here. Then, if you have been doing a good job, you deserve a little more - </i> does this analysis work when discussing collective bargaining? then you are not talking about making sure an individual gets a higher salary as they have been there for a while, you are talking about increasing every worker's salary. so the consideration would seem primarily to be things like cost of living. also, isn't the whole point of collective bargaining that you can't give individualized treatment? I don’t like the word ‘raise’ being your basic increase of income. Every worker needs a basic cost of living increase just to be able to deal with their rent, which is ridiculously high to begin with around here. Then, if you have been doing a good job, you deserve a little more –

does this analysis work when discussing collective bargaining? then you are not talking about making sure an individual gets a higher salary as they have been there for a while, you are talking about increasing every worker’s salary. so the consideration would seem primarily to be things like cost of living. also, isn’t the whole point of collective bargaining that you can’t give individualized treatment?

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